I’ve just heard that a new product called The Evil Reddit Magician is being launched very soon, so I wanted to see whether it’s legit or a scam. It is not officially launching until a few days after writing this, so consider this a “heads up” of what is in store once it launches. Anyway, let’s take a look…
Product Name: The Evil Reddit Magician
Owners: Sophia Mugnani & Dr. Ben Adkins
Launch date: July 4th-10th, 2016
Price: $9.95 + huge upsells!
My Rating: Possibly worth a try (if you can avoid the upsells)
Guarantee: 30-day money back guarantee.
First, a bit about Reddit…
I used to use Reddit myself a few years ago. It definitely has the potential to get a lot of traffic to a website or page. This is because it is used by so many people. The great thing about it is that if something is genuinely good, people will up-vote it and it will rise to the top. But it also means that if something is bad, it gets lots of down-votes and sinks to the bottom.
This also means it can be a bad place for internet marketers or anyone wanting to abuse Reddit to make money.
Several years ago I got burned for trying to abuse Reddit, not by trying to make money but to get people to listen to my music. You see, I make my own music in my spare time (you can listen to it here), and there is a website called Radio Reddit, which is actually a separate site to Reddit but links into it. So I added a bunch of my music to Radio Reddit.
Then I found a website where you could get fake up-votes on anything on Reddit, and I used this to propel my own music to the top of the Radio Reddit charts.
But then Reddit spotted that I was gaming the system, and they “Shadow Banned” me. This is a sneaky tactic where they make it so that you are still able to post to Reddit, but nobody else on Reddit can see anything you post. So the only way you might know if this has happened to you is of you suddenly stop getting any activity on anything you post there.
So I know from my own past experience that if you mistreat Reddit, it will turn on you.
But coming back to The Evil Reddit Magician…
I’m glad to see that they address these concerns. They say themselves that you can’t just plaster your links all over Reddit and get away with it. They address that issue in Part 4 of their course.
So, what is The Evil Reddit Magician?
It is a “Power Live Course” that covers 5 parts:
All this for just a small price of:
And also, the first 300 people get access to their “Evil Reddit Bonuses”, which are:
Actually, that’s the only bonus they show. Maybe they are going to add more soon?
But anyway, $9.94 to be shown the best way to promote your business on Reddit, that’s still a great price, right? Personally, I think it sounds like a great deal. If this training does indeed show you everything you need to know to be successful on Reddit. I just wish it was in a step-by-step ebook format, or a series of videos, rather than a live session.
Well, there’s something about the idea of a live event that makes me suspicious. I can’t help but think that there might actually be more going on here. What if they are going to use the live event to try to squeeze more money out of me?
Well, I dug a little deeper, and it turns out that my suspicions are not entirely unfounded…
A Peak Behind the Door…
Although the main product costs only $9.95, what they don’t tell you on that sales page is that is that once you have bought that they are going to try to squeeze a LOT more money out of you. A hell of a lot more money, in fact.
You see, if you go to http://theevilredditmagician.com/jv, you can see the page intended to be seen only by affiliates wanting to promote this product. Right there at the top they boast that you can earn as much as $173.97 for every customer you refer.
WOAH! Hold on there a minute! Where the hell did that figure come from?
I’ll show you. Take a look at this…
If you scroll quite far down the page, you will see this image:
What is this?
It shows you the sales funnel, the process you go through when you buy the product. What we have here are two very big upsells, plus two downsells.
What are upsells?
An upsell is when you buy a product and then immediately get shown a one-time offer for one or more additional products. The implication is that you really need these additional products in order to make the most of the main product. It’s very common in the “make money online” world, and many people seem to think it’s fine. There are those of us, though, that think it’s deceptive and wrong.
But let’s just do some math:
Main product: $9.95
Upsell 1: $99.95
Upsell 2: $199.95
That’s 31 times the original price of $9.95!
So, is The Evil Reddit Magician a scam, or is it legit?
Well, that kind of depends on what your definition of a scam is. Some people think that a product is a scam if it has upsells like this. Other people argue that a scam is much more than that and you can’t call something a scam just because it has upsells.
But if you type “define:scam” into Google, you get this:
Noun: a dishonest scheme; a fraud.
If you type “define: swindle” into Google you get this:
Verb: use deception to deprive (someone) of money or possessions.
Upsells, by their very nature, are deceptive. That’s the whole point. They deceive the customer into thinking they only have to pay $9.95 to learn how to use Reddit to get website traffic. Then they are suddenly asked to pay a lot more for additional products if they really want to get the most success out of it.
So, it could be argued that a product with upsells is a scam.
On the other hand, nobody is forcing you to buy those additional products against your will, or taking your money without asking you. Some really bad scams do deceive people to the point where they don’t even realise what they are getting themselves into at all, and upsells are not at the same level of evilness as that.
Also, it going by what the sales page says is inside the main training, it does look like it covers some good things. So it could very well be that by doing that live training for $9.95 you are getting some great training on how to use Reddit effectively to get traffic to your website. All I’m saying is if you only want to spend the $9.95, just be on your guard to be hit by the upsells and the manipulative sales tactics within which they will be framed.
And, of course, there is a 30-day money back guarantee, so if you still feel like you didn’t get enough for your $9.95, you can just ask for a refund.
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Anyway, I hope you found my investigation into The Evil Reddit Magician helpful. As I have explained, it is really up to you to decide for yourself whether it is a scam or legit. All I have done is shown you the facts and given you my opinion, but the judgement is ultimately yours to make.
If you have any comments or questions, I would love to hear from you, so why not post them in the comments section below.
All the best,
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